"Thus no need for IV" when your desktop client just pulls a minified blob from somewhere is not particularly reassuring. It would be nice (and I'm looking for somewhere to move all my Flickr photos), but it massively increases the resources required at the back end. I spent quite a few years working in Digital Preservation, and what we found is that as evil as you paint them, a big corporation with lots of money will outlast an individual with pure motivations. On top of that, I find their organization features not very good. Yes, you won't be able to index them and search them and yadda yadda yadda but you're writing _notes_, not full-fledged documents. CloudFormation or Terraform template link in the README would really sweet. Package Formats (I hope it is the future) we have appimage, flatpak (Redhat backed), snap (Ubuntu backed). Notes are supposed to be brief records to _aid memory_, not critically important documents. Standard Note (Image credit: ... For something more feature-light and text-oriented than a lot of the best note taking apps, try out SimpleNote, a cross-platform offering from Automattic. That's pretty much what I do, except using UltraEdit as the editor. Microsoft OneNote for a free note-taking app. https://medium.com/@mobitar/evernote-is-what-happens-when-yo... https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki/Getting-Started, https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki/Cloud-Syncing. I'd imagine others who spend the majority of their time using computers are in the same boat. The next version I'm working on will make the experience a lot more fluid, comfortable, and even fun. Not that long. Depends on your definition of a "note" I guess. I've seen the way many people use physical notes and it's largely the same thing. Even if I want to preserve the history of the evolution, I'll want to be able to insert the new things where they make sense -- a new consequence here, a parenthetical that amends the previous thought there. Evernote and Simplenote are great tools and I would recommend them for mostpeo… Open Source + Good Business Insights + Good Design is rare to find. What you found are just bugs. They're just markdown utf-8 textfiles in a folder hierarchy, and I figure vim and vimscript extensions are pretty darn future proof. I like Google Keep as well, but I can only really use it for "simple" notes that I take while mobile. Some of them are quite good too. - simple security so you can share only with the people you want to share with, especially simple for older relatives Check out my blog for more articles or Github for my free-to-read JavaScript Ebook that covers all the new features from ES6 to 2019. I keep a small Moleskine notebook and a pen with me to write down notes and ideas. That would make both my life and your life much easier for the time being. Simplenote syncs across virtually everything and supports AppImage, DEB, and RPM. As a developer, I would just love to not have to worry about this limiting extension architecture, and just bundle everything directly in the app. For portable encryption you can use 7-Zip with encrypted archives, and as a bonus: 7-Zip's archive manager lets you edit text files in-place (well, it does extract and recompress them when you're done, but the UX is such you don't need to mess around with file management yourself). All that within Dropbox directory, accessible anywhere. Snap uses a central location which i also don't like as much. One thing you have to sort out is whether and how Simplenote fits into your notes workflow. For some context,in addition to taking notes with the method I describe in this post,I have tried taking noteswith pen and paper,with Google Docs,with Evernote,andwith Simplenote. Good to know :), The auto-updater really isn't ready for prime time, sadly. It's a shame there is no public Keep API to play with. A better UI color scheme for the android app should be done or at least one extra theme should be available for the free app. I find my research notebook useful as a dated "what am I doing right now", free-form input useful for equations and diagrams, and short term to-do lists (which are more useful for outlining the steps needed to actually get something done). Since it's just plain markdown files, you can save to Dropbox, git, NFS, or anything else really. Free.It has everything Evernote can do, but there’s no premium tier. Regarding some of the extensions and themes: While using the folders extension the UI is broken so it is impossible to edit the tag because the interaction menu is not clickable. Its open source. No, I won't be able to search them, nor will they sync, nor will they be there when I lose my notebook. I own, use, and enjoy Ulysses, but I wouldn't buy it at its current price. My principle, maybe my only, problem with paper is appending to notes I've already closed by opening new notes after them. Instead, I went with implementing it as a Atom package to leverage its community and other text-editing features. When I think of notes, grocery lists and todo lists come to mind. Standard Notes (todo) Notebooks. You can easily create text-notes, reminders, to-do list, and more. - backend storage should be any cloud hosting system such as on AWS S3, but the data shouldn't be accessible to any one publicly, except via the application, and ideally encrypted at rest. > What I write is important to me. Apple Notes provides several options while typing a note. Zim does have support for embedding images, or links to other files/websites. Sure, the subscription is helping the developer to keep the app running but once I stop paying that, I will loose crucial features. The core mission of SN has always been anti-bloat. Flatpak and appimage are the most open friendly. The Electron Desktop App simply loads an index.html which points at remote JavaScript. I'm really satisfied with the end to end encryption and the general security and privacy model of Standard Notes. Without exaggerating, they're enough to fill a suitcase. That said just taking notes in a consistent place and in a consistent format gets you 80% of the way there. I use pen and paper all the time but only for ephemera. The notes are searchable, can be copied, tagged and modified either from the applications directly or from your own text editor. And some stuff, like babel (which is probably important to devs), depends on other emacs packages... You can still always open complicated org files in emacs if you really need to, but that shouldn't stop people from attempting to develop a lighter client alternative that's more convenient for the browser or mobile, for example. It's remarkable how bad the Apple Notes apps are. This is part of what Standard Notes addresses. http://happenapps.com [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (1 child), Hi! I like this trend of back to basics in computing (even if it is running in a web browser on my desktop), its goals are nice. Is education the only way around this? I do that in vim with a Markdown file and the GPG extension for vim. Items are encrypted with random keys. Yes, absolutely, all of this is done to make development easier. Noticed you're using AWS. You could also ignore the organized structure and make everything a top level note in the manner of Simplenote. Also a subscription doesn't guarantee that something unexpected will happen to Shinyfrog (the company behind it). Notes may contribute to a long-term document that should absolutely be digitized, but storing the notes themselves defeats their purpose in my view. I think you're not at a point where you should be advertising security as a feature (rather than eventual goal) of your product. Of course, if you love using an elegant pen for the esthetics and freedom of it (okay, hard to argue with that), then do anything important on fine, archival, loose paper with a beautiful, pigmented (not dye) ink, and scan and OCR it to once again maximize its usefulness and longevity. If you want to read your notes 50 years from now use a pen and paper. Containerized solution with the hope of easier portability and better security by sandboxing type solutions. [3] Moving subfolders of notes in the app makes the notes completely disappear. with a modern feature set (embedded media, links, etc. I'm also looking to escape Flickr, and still have yet to find a good self-hosted solution. Org is its own little world, but I know that I can always edit an Org file on any computer with my preferred editor. AlternativeTo is a free service that helps you find better alternatives to the products you love and hate. The OneNote clipper felt a little lacking and sometimes buggy for me. But I plan to move off of it after I accidentaly removed part of the note and noticed then that there is no undo at all. Hmm, good point, looks like you can export individual notes as PDF, but that's it. Thus no need for IV, and makes implementations across platforms simpler. Thanks for sharing, I enjoy reading your code. Standard Notes seems the very least amazing. Needs transparent encryption though, so you can push your notes to untrustworthy places. Mac only and as others pointed out not updated too regular but I know people who love it. For ones like me that never heard about AppImage before (shame on me), you just need to "chmod a+x file.AppImage", then execute as a normal (./) [0]. Simplenote is one of the best note-taking app which not only offers a no-nonsense interface but also brings most of the basic features that you might require from a note-taking app. The only bulk operations are Delete and Pin-to-top. When writing I don't want to think about metadata, I just want to write, not think about titles, tags, etc. We did this as a way to push out changes quicker since we were still making major improvements often. So where do I go? I love Google Keep but I wonder when they will kill it. I agree. I found Google Keep much too basic. So I thank you once again for your thoughts. It's also useful when traveling and being given a guest Linux work station to use that it doesn't require admin privileges to get working: just git clone the vimwiki repo into ~/.vim and clone the notes repo. Notes can be plain text markdown documents, or rich text, WYSIWYG format. I'm not saying that the devs are greedy or have bad intentions, I understand their position as in the app business they have to compete with giant companies and this might be really unfair to them. 1. Simplenote doesn’t have many advanced features, but is an ideal candidate for simple note taking. I almost always end up back there :). Well, paper, yes, but usually not pen. Paper notepads and daily calendars are very popular on Kickstarter. 2. VS Code provides Markdown editing capabilities out-of-the-box, but you can install an extension for even greater functionality, like shortcuts, creating a table of contents, and more. That looks pretty great. At this point I find it most useful to type up the "cooked" knowledge into vimwiki at various points. I love the spirit of this. In the case of Ulysses, I can still use the same version that I currently own in 10 years even if the company behind it goes out of business (given it will still run on our machines that we use at that point) + updates until the next paid upgrade (if that happens). I hope it's a success! According to the website you can simply output your data to a text file: On the contrary, this is like a web application optimized for tablet converted to a windows app. Visual Studio Code. Simplenote is excellent for basic notetaking but having used Onenote I'm spoiled by it's ability to search within images. Encrypted, open-source, and extensible. Reminds me of Simple Note, which I've been using ever since Evernote became slow and bloated (. However, there is already rudimentary support for the org format outside org, so it may not be that bad. My ideas, understanding of things also evolve over time, and if my notes are to be faithful to that they should allow the same mutability. And Quiver has far more functionality. I think we're all thoroughly aware of the pen and paper option. Edit: I should really set up redirects for those. On the other hand, I still have the diary I typed on a Mac as kid in the early 90s. My app auto-saves every few seconds, and records a log of the diff. Zim is great. But two years from now, the app would inevitably begin suffering and bloating, and eventually implode. Open your note, click on the Info in the panel, and select “Send.” You will see “Print” as an option. A hundred years from now. True in some measure of any product in any stage of development. Grep and find still work. In fact, we might even quickly become more bloated than Evernote. However, digital notes are useful, especially for brain dumping something quickly, so I've settled on vimwiki[3] in a git repository. Many people will generate that much data as photos in an afternoon. Open Simplenote, and click on the “Note” settings. Ok, Windows Evernote client is a bit bloated, I agree, but I can still immediately enter new note and immediately search notes via a shortcut. For those wanting a little more power and flexibility, we created Extended, which unlocks powerful editors, themes, and automated backups. In the meantime, feel free to submit a pull request for any of those items and I'll be happy to merge it in. Hugely. I think such a non-linear problem can be solved with different note taking methods as "short, medium, and long-term storage". Private files are stored in a truecrypt volume. Open your note and use the File-> Print menu option or Ctrl P. iOS. I'll bet that .txt files (which is what I currently use to store notes) will outlast .doc. Zim[0] (open source) has a lot of these features. Standard Notes Completes Penetration Test and Cryptography Audit. I don't / wouldn't do that simply because my handwriting pushes the boundaries of the word 'atrocious'. Paper is heavy, and takes space. I use penn and paper all the time and prefer it to note taking apps. Learn more. I know HN is for the tech crowd, but can I suggest something so simple it sounds stupid? Quiver is another awesome note taking app, native and superfast on macOS: And 10.8 MB on OS X. Originally published on my blog. The only thing it is lacking is something like Evernote clipper. 2. If you check the actual changes, it does seem like it's under active development: It is under active development they just haven't released a new version. Totally. "Camlistore (Content-Addressable Multi-Layer Indexed Storage) is under active development. Standard format, distributed all over the place [3]. Evernote clipper (or "save this page as a note") is the only thing keeping me on that platform. I was trying the advanced editor on a existing note with some sensitive information (my bad, I know). Learn more. Emacs and or any other text editor will just works. But, the disconnect seems to be that you believed our mission, but were set aback by some technical mishaps. Have started using and has become my daily driver (for notes and lite GTD work). No. It's a fork of Notational Velocity, on the developer's GitHub: There's similar support in org-mode, in case you are interested in Emacs or use another platform: Also deft, if you are not using org-mode. Learn more. Feature Request: don't load notes on android, just type and send. Using it only for notes is probably not doing it justice. This makes sense as there is not a lot to upset anyone with the core free version, which was kind of the goal ;). Even on year 99, it's a work in progress. All the ones I've tried don't even come close. Even notepad.exe has 3 step undo, so that is totally unacceptable. Google? © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Some people like to take their notes digitally. The Evernote clipper really shines in how smooth everything works. I'll have to poke at it. Unless you have an extensive background in application security, especially on the stack that you are using (Electron, etc), then don't advertise security as a feature. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Good luck. For searching, I use the old ZTree, usually finds what I want in seconds. I would like to do something similar but I would like markdown support and the ability to link to other documents/media. Personally I think flatpak is the best of breed with appimage a close second. If someone want to go that way OpenSuse Build Service. Pen and paper is a commonly used alternative, even amongst the HN crowd, but there's no need to shout down a product that might help people because you take notes differently. Is there actually any description of how you're encrypting, how you manage and distribute keys, why you believe this is secure, why you're not using an authenticated mode, etc? This doesn't mean my goal was to deceive you—my mission and passion is still building a notes app that lasts. On a technical level, this seems to be a desktop web app which is overkill for a simple text editor. I had a similar thoughts, but didn't want to start from scratch (I include Electron in this definition). [0]: https://github.com/ageitgey/node-unfluff. Its open source. That is, notes that I don't really feel like organizing or naming. Even just using a subset of orgs features, it can still be significantly more powerful than just plain old markdown. I personally bought Ulysses and use that as my notes taking app for text-only documents, and Apple Notes for short-lived image related notes. How does Simplenote fit into your notes workflow? But there's an extension system built for Standard Notes so 3rd party can add. Interesting! Keep up the good work guys. However, for this use case I don't believe technology adds very much value. Where there's demand for privacy and security, notepad falls short, as you cannot password-protect your notes. Now, THIS is what I call customer service :D. Jokes aside I sense and appreciate your commitment, and (apart to get rid of the red UI :p) that's mostly the reason why I felt comfortable in paying the subscription in the first place. With a lot of notes and lists in Google Keep, I always wonder when Google will kill it like Reader. See. But their main point is indeed security - compared to say simplenote. What's wrong with good old notepad.exe and *.txt files? 1. The good news is that the extensions experience is always undergoing improvement. No two items are ever encrypted with same key. Price is quite reasonable for what it offers. Just drag the toolbar to go back in time. One could probably infer a title based on the first line. Yes, there is no wrong side. The preferred way to deploy it via GCE or Scaleway will use the latest dockerized version. The format is just plain text. A couple things that could be useful: In the HN crowd, I wonder how many notes still start off on paper, but are then transcribed into digital. Even though I think that there is no real need of nested tags (especially when the system can't be clearly mirrored on the android app) the actual extension should work correctly. Great read. The simplest way to keep notes. Go ahead, downvote away. The best note-taking apps sync across iPhone, Mac, Windows, Android, and the web. I'm just getting started with Electron, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but how is that different from the updates endpoint getting compromised (for apps with auto update enabled)? I was going to pay a developer to create something like this because I wanted its exact features so badly. The developers also actively engage with the community over at reddit.com/r/bearapp. I'm not even directly commenting on the product itself. Agreed, I think there is room for improvements and the design leaves me cold. This is a typical workflow action in other apps: Do a search, multi-select notes among the matches, then apply or de-apply one or more tags to all these notes at once. Part of the appeal of Simplenote is markdown support but the other cool thing is WordPress support. Today I frequently wish I had taken notes in some electronic form rather than on paper. On Windows, there's EFS and NTFS ACLs for privacy (and BitLocker, of course). In the end the software experience feels more broken than simple. And the great news is that while I've been experimenting and releasing new extensions regularly, the core app has hardly changed from the way it was one year ago. Encryption and media are easily changed if that becomes necessary and technology changes. Remote code should never run with full privileges - consider using a `webview` instead, which can be sandboxed. In fact Evernote has been advertising handwritten text indexing for quite a while: I thought down-voting was for bad behavior, not disagreement. I think some history helps: the paid version of Standard Notes came several months after the core version was released. What would the quality of discussion here be if the threads were filled with obvious comments that provided no new insight? Now that I have 923 notes in HTML files on my hard drive, I can do whatever I want with them. Here everything is indeed encrypted and they have no way of reading our data. The availability of old information is strongly related to the ability to index it. I used to like Keep as well, but I needed something that would work offline, even trello wasn't an option. This is especially true for a notes app that is supposed to last you over many many years and possibly hold thousands of notes at some point. A note-taking system that works cross platform with local-encryption. And that requires a different sort of thinking and development architecture. You can bind such paper into a beautiful notebook after writing and scanning. ", "The latest release is 0.9 ("Astrakhan"), released 2015-12-30.". Our revenue source comes exclusively from our customers, and not from advertisers or venture capitalists. Since an AppImage is just a compressed filesystem, you can also extract its content very similar to a zip file. Unlike Laverna, Standard Notes is being actively developed. according to Google. Because I can't use it on a free account (it resets the checkbox every time). 2018 is the beginning of year two :). Learn more. Visual Studio Code isn’t a dedicated Markdown editor, but has the functionality to be used as one all the same. Standard Notes is a lot like Simplenote. It also sounds like this person was quite negligent in handling their own data - Standard Notes certainly asks more of you as far as problem solving because it’s under development by one really thoughtful person - but it beats using any non encrypted or “encrypted” service by mainstream options. I use deft after trying a few other alternatives. Standard Notes is an elegant, open-source note taking application. Zim has support for embedded images, but not Web clipping. Well, the notes are stored as HTML text fields in a SQLite database somewhere in /Library. Related, here's a post by the author [1] about Evernote which sheds light on why he went about making this. I'm also yet to find the perfect photos app. Your notes from ten years ago may be physically there, but how long is it going to take to find what you need? So you get the full feature se… I like that Standard Notes is similar, but adds privacy and the option for self-hosting. Or sign each release with a private key on a machine that's "very protected from the Internet" and only have the Electron app automatically pull the update if the signature can be verified with the public key. Whether your note-taking style demands minimal design and slick gesture-based functions, or advanced organization and cataloging of various media, chances are there's a notes app that's right for you. I feel this will work for a lot of people, especially less technical users. I'd be fine with using different apps if they all used the qvnotebook format, but as far as I know, nothing but Quiver uses that, and I don't want to have an export/import step. I took a lot of notes on pen and paper during my studies, but after a decade of moving around (including different countries) I have none of them left. Sadly it is closed source and Mac only so it does not have the same overall philosophy (despite the note output being very portable). Quiver is awesome, but I really need something that works on Windows and Linux as well. I converted some text to bold and then to get it back to plain text quickly I pressed ctrl + z several times. For example using the advanced editor on the desktop app means that in the android app you will have a note with visible html tags. The other major benefit of having them digital is having them searchable. I would also mention nvALT has a similar philosophy in terms of file format and supports Markdown and fast searching of notes. Software is a living breathing thing, and feedback like yours helps shape the future and helps improve the product. The app doesn't work without an active web connection -- it's just an empty shell. "A brief record of facts, topics, or thoughts, written down as an aid to memory." For years I've been using TiddlyWiki[0], and while it has worked fine it is not perfect. Evernote vs OneNote in 2021: Clash of the Note-Taking Titans. Excellent effort! (this made me smile; I worked at NRAO for ten years.). Simplenote can be tied to a WordPress account for easy WordPress posting. You can access the app without sign up here: Very nice. Speaking realistically, investing your personal data in this project is currently a much greater risk than using Evernote. Both Standard File servers are down: Purely out of curiosity - what do you find remarkably bad about Apple Notes? This is a lifesaver if you have to quickly search for a scanned receipt or a screenshot. 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